The Troop 445 and Crew 445 GPSr WAYPOINT DATABASE
a service of Troop 445 & Crew 445, Arlington, Texas

 

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This is an attempt to compile a complete, accurate database of Philmont waypoints for use by crews attending Philmont.  A Global Positioning Satellite receiver (GPSr)  should never take the place of a good map and compass and the knowledge of how to use them.  When the GPSr does work, it only tells you where you are, not where you are going.  When it doesn't work, it is a very expensive, heavy, useless addition to your backpack.

The Philmont waypoints on this list are in no way guaranteed to be wholly accurate.  Notes will be made on each waypoint where error may be suspected.  Please use your own mapping software to help make decisions on which waypoints to use when planning your Philmont expedition.  Then, after you have completed your Philmont expedition, please take a little time to submit your observed waypoints so others can benefit from your experience.

This list of Philmont waypoints is available for download either as an EasyGPS .loc file or a G7toWin .g7t file as well as a MS Excel spreadsheet.  Both EasyGPS and G7toWin are free downloadable programs used for waypoint management. Both programs can upload waypoints to your GPSr or download waypoints from your GPSr.  In order to take advantage of these programs, you must have the ability to hook your GPSr up to your computer via either serial or USB cable.

If you have Philmont waypoints you would like to submit, e-mail them to philmontwaypoints@philmontforum.com.  Source information is included for each waypoint.


Downloads

EasyGPS program
A waypoint management program.
Can upload/download from most GPSr.
G7toWin program
A waypoint management program.
Can upload/download from most GPSr.
GPSBabel
A program that converts waypoints, tracks, and routes from one format to another.
EasyGPS .loc 
Philmont Waypoint file

last updated 6-29-05
G7toWin .g7t 
Philmont Waypoint file

last updated 6-29-05
In order to download this file properly, right click on the file and select "Save Target As..." - then select where you want the file stored.  Be sure to save the file with the ".g7t" extension.
Philmont Waypoints.xls
last updated 07-14-2004
This Excel spreadsheet file contains the entire table listed below, and all waypoints listed in DD MM SS,  DD MM.mmmm, DD.dddd, and UTM.  This file can be manipulated for mapping purposes once saved.  In order to download this file properly, right click on the file and select "Save Target As..." - then select where you want the file stored.  Be sure to save the file with the ".xls" extension.
  *NEW*
Garmin Mapsource Topo file
last updated 6-29-05
 
 
Campsite/Landmark Exact Location Latitude
(DD.dddd)
North
Longitude (DD.dddd) "-" denotes West Elevation Source Date
Abreu ? 36.37659 -105.01569 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Aqua Fria Camp ? 36.38242 -105.12381 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Aguila Camp ? 36.39721 -105.02292 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Anasazi Camp ? 36.60426 -104.9814 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Apache Springs Camp ? 36.3855 -105.14315 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Apache Springs Camp (2) staff cabin 36.38748333 -105.1440333   Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Aspen Springs Camp ? 36.50333 -105.059666 ? Troop 377, Katy, TX ?
Aspen Springs Camp (2) middle of camp 36.50401 -105.06062 7929 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Backache Springs Camp ? 36.39413 -104.97123 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Badger Camp ? 36.4398 -104.97805 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Baldy Mountain Peak summit 36.628 -105.2127 12441 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Baldy Mountain Peak (2) summit 36.62992 -105.21339 12441 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Baldy Mountain Treeline from north approach 36.63073 -105.21237 ? Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Baldy Skyline Camp ? 36.6136 -105.15252 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Baldy Town Camp ? 36.6246 -105.1906 9825 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Baldy Town Camp (2) by Assayer's Office 36.62639 -105.19125 9868 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Base Camp ? 36.4529 -104.9565 6691 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Base Camp (2) ? 36.45472 -104.95778 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Base of Tooth of Time trailhead 36.44835991 -105.0054344 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Base of Tooth of Time (2) by Shaefers Pass sign 36.45001 -105.00578 8615 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Bear Canyon Camp ? 36.39558 -105.13379 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Bear Canyon Camp (2) near camp sign 36.39821667 -105.134667 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Bear Cave Camp ? 36.40248 -105.03283 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Beaubien Camp ? 36.42187 -105.10275 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Benchmark GM0731 - Philmont Philmont Benchmark along HWY 21 before Zastro turn off 36.39691 -104.937129 6730 National Geodetic Survey Last Recovered 1955
Benchmark GM0771 - Hart Peak Hart Peak 36.628081 -105.023803 7982 National Geodetic Survey Last Recovered 1954
Benchmark GM0775 - Baldy Mountain Baldy Mountain 36.629882 -105.213405 12445 National Geodetic Survey Last Recovered 2003
Benchmark GM0785 - Black Mountain Black Mountain 36.449955 -105.081179 10879 National Geodetic Survey Last Recovered 1961
Benchmark GM0786 - Tooth of Time Tooth of Time 36.447925 -105.008107 9006 National Geodetic Survey Last Recovered 2003
Benchmark GM0792 - Mt. Phillips Clear Creek Mountain/Mt. Phillips 36.476626 -105.159451 11742 National Geodetic Survey Last Recovered 2002
Benchmark GM0793 - Mt. Phillips Ridge Mt Phillips - 550' North of the peak 36.478059 -105.160124 11716 National Geodetic Survey Last Recovered 1961
Bent Camp ? 36.63369 -105.06438 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Bent Camp (2) middle of camp on 4WD road 36.63486 -105.06433 7322 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Black Horse Camp ? 36.60925 -105.19046 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Black Jack Camp ? 36.57483 -105.04785 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Black Mountain Camp ? 36.44083 -105.0927 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Bonita Cow Camp ? 36.40105 -105.08418 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Brown Sea ? 36.42556 -105.13125 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Buck Creek Camp ? 36.40956 -105.12941 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Cathedral Rock Camp ? 36.47941 -105.0489 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Cimarron River Camp ? 36.56273 -105.06135 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Cimarroncito Camp ? 36.49676 -105.06487 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Cimarroncito Camp (2) near staff cabin 36.49876667 -105.06535 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Clarks Fork Camp ? 36.46675 -105.04765 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Clarks Fork Camp (2) front of cabin 36.46923 -105.04809 7548 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Clear Creek Camp ? 36.47037 -105.18362 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Comanche Camp ? 36.44807 -105.16256 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Comanche Peak Camp ? 36.47883 -105.13742 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Comanche Peak Lookout lookout near camp 36.48067 -105.13717 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Cook Canyon Camp ? 36.66821 -105.06312 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Copper Park Camp ? 36.6397 -105.2014 10480 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Copper Park Camp (2) campsite 9 36.64167 -105.20348 10699 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Copper Park Meadow meadow 36.64092 -105.19981 10460 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Copper Park Trail to Greenwood trailhead 36.6418 -105.2034 ? Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Cottonwood Trail Camp ? 36.65504 -104.9971 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Crags Camp ? 36.3657 -105.06136 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Crater Lake Camp ? 36.40371 -105.04855 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Crater Lake Camp (2) camp near spar pole area 36.40566667 -105.047834 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Crooked Creek Camp ? 36.42268 -105.14673 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Crooked Creek Camp (2) staff cabin 36.42471667 -105.1471 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Cyphers Mine Camp ? 36.48275 -105.11605 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Dan Beard Camp ? 36.67481 -105.08799 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Dean Cow Camp ? 36.56526 -104.99771 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Dean Cow Camp (2) front of cabin 36.56648 -104.99875 7237 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Dean Cutoff ? 36.61604 -105.04887 ? Darryl Tadsen, St. Charles, MO 2002?
Dean Cutoff (2) campsite 4 36.61575 -105.05316 7363 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Dean Cutoff (3) DC sign on east side of campsites 36.61663 -105.04965 7274 Doug Latimer, Troop 291, Plano, Tx 2004
Dean Skyline Camp ? 36.60427 -105.05114 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Deer Lake Camp ? 36.50406 -105.02475 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Deer Lake Mesa Camp ? 36.52839 -105.05 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Devils Wash Basin Camp ? 36.52397 -105.05653 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Elkhorn Camp ? 36.60992 -105.0838 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Ewells Park Camp ? 36.62207 -105.17113 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Fish Camp ? 36.3853 -105.10233 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Fish Camp (2) camp along Aqua Fria 36.38716667 -105.102167 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Flume Canyon Camp ? 36.6235 -105.0873 7770 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Fowler Pass ? 36.39665 -105.06023 ? Capitol Area Council ?
French Henry Camp ? 36.634 -105.18428 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
French Henry Camp (2) at French Henry sign 36.63584 -105.18503 9632 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Greenwood Canyon Camp ? 36.6988 -105.1694 10500 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Harlan Camp ? 36.51401 -105.01743 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Harlan Camp (2) front of cabin 36.51595 -105.01775 7548 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Hart Peak   36.6262 -105.0231 7978 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Head of Dean Camp ? 36.6055 -105.1172 8687 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Head of Dean Camp (2) front of cabin 36.6102 -105.12014 8753 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Highway 64 at trail to Vaca intersection of 4WD road & trail before highway 36.52162 -104.98172 6669 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Hunting Lodge Camp taken at campsite, not at the cabin 36.48617 -105.06167 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Hunting Lodge Camp (2) ? 36.48806 -105.06944 ? Capitol Area Council ?

"Hunting Lodge Camp (2)" waypoint maps 0.5 mile west of actual location.

Hunting Lodge Camp (3) front of cabin 36.48592 -105.0632 7792 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Indian Writings Camp ? 36.62181 -104.99443 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Lamberts Mine Camp ? 36.47612 -105.10749 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Line Camp ? 36.35361 -105.00806 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Lookout Meadows Camp ? 36.38035 -105.06964 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Lost Cabin Camp ? 36.38208 -105.13551 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Lovers Leap Camp ? 36.41765 -105.01656 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Lower Bonita Camp ? 36.39159 -105.07114 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Lower Sawmill Camp ? 36.52 -105.07778 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Maxwell Camp ? 36.60111 -105.15336 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
McBride Canyon Camp ? 36.5974 -104.9931 7080 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
McCrystal Creek ? 36.74722 -105.12278 ? Capitol Area Council ?
McCrystal Turnaround turnaround 36.776 -105.097 8019 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Midnight View Camp ? 36.53146 -105.01515 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Miners Park Camp ? 36.42195 -105.04126 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Miranda Camp ? 36.60694 -105.1711 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Mount Phillips Camp ? 36.47362 -105.15406 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
New Dean Camp ? 36.59162 -105.04786 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
North Fork Urraca Camp ? 36.4347 -105.04198 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Old Abreu Camp ? 36.37514 -105.04198 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
"Old Abreu Camp" waypoint maps out west of the camp's location on the Philmont map.
Old Camp ? 36.66093 -105.02848 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Olympia ? 36.37056 -104.96472 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Phillips Junction commissary 36.41395 -105.11765 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Ponderosa Camp ? 36.45831 -105.02707 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Ponil Camp ? 36.6211 -105.0381 7128 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Ponil Cantina cantina 36.62267 -105.03875 7157 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Ponil Commissary bridge near commissary 36.62228 -105.03683 7209 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Ponil Turnaround turnaround 36.61342 -105.02769 7052 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Porcupine Camp ? 36.42029 -105.13013 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Pueblano Camp ? 36.62285 -105.11413 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Pueblano Camp (2) front of cabin 36.62498 -105.11467 8089 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Pueblano Ruins Camp ? 36.62716 -105.13484 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Pueblano Ruins Camp (2) campsite 3 36.62892 -105.13611 8383 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Rayado Camp ? 36.36881 -104.93298 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Rayado River Camp ? 36.37396 -105.01232 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Rayado River Camp (2) campsite 4 36.3763 -105.0054 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 612-D-3,  2002
Red Hills Camp ? 36.46714 -105.13859 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Rich Cabins ? 36.6682 -105.1148 7800 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Rich Cabins (2) front of cabin 36.66995 -105.11506 7728 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Rich Cabins Windmill windmill north of camp 36.6854 -105.1139 8226 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Rich Trail to Seally trailhead 36.6495 -105.0935 ? Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Rimrock Park Camp ? 36.37501 -105.02102 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Ring Place ? 36.77172 -105.12093 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Rocky Mountain Camp ? 36.434 -104.99031 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Santa Claus Camp ? 36.58952 -105.09201 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Sawmill Camp ? 36.5136 -105.10798 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Sawmill Camp (2) ? 36.51575 -105.108583 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Seally Canyon Camp ? 36.7491 -105.1 8000 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Seally Spring spring at Seally Camp 36.7499 -105.0938 7960 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Shaefers Pass Camp ? 36.4478 -105.04497 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Shaefers Peak summit 36.45032 -105.03737 9426 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Sioux Camp ? 36.6226 -105.0549 ? Troop 377, Katy, TX ?
Sioux Camp (2) trail to camp at bottom of hill 36.62483 -105.05183 7221 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Six Mile Gate turnaround 36.5851 -104.9636 6712 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Six Mile Gate (2) ? 36.5854 -104.96445 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Stockade Camp ? 36.43504 -104.99717 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Stonewall Pass ? 36.40861 -105.01014 ? Capitol Area Council ?

"Stonewall Pass" waypoint maps east of the pass' location on the Philmont map.

T. Rex ? 36.59611 -104.97194 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Thunder Ridge Camp ? 36.48539 -105.13122 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Tooth Ridge Camp ? 36.44942 -104.99748 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Tooth of Time Summit summit 36.44579 -105.00731 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Tooth of Time Summit (2) summit 36.44792 -105.00817 9003 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Toothache Springs Camp ? 36.40033 -104.99216 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Trail Peak Summit 6" metal pipe with cap alongside trail 36.407417 -105.06725 10250 Troop 62, St. Louis, Mo. 617-F, 2004
Trail Peak Crash Site uphill end of wing 36.40962 -105.06828 10125 Troop 62, St. Louis, Mo. 617-F, 2005
Turkey Creek Camp ? 36.56289 -105.02095 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Turkey Creek Canyon trail from Dean Cow & 4WD road 36.54651 -104.99787 7254 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Upper Bench Camp ? 36.53997 -105.05556 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Upper Clarks Fork Camp ? 36.45848 -105.04841 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Upper Dean Cow Camp ? 36.60082 -105.08074 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Upper Dean Cow Camp (2) campsite 6 36.60176 -105.08603 8238 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Upper Sawmill Camp old camp activated due to 2002 fire 36.52055 -105.09088 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Upper Sawmill Camp (2) ? 36.51944 -105.08917 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Urraca Camp ? 36.40899 -104.98988 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Urraca Camp (2) ? 36.405333 -104.987333 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Ute Gulch Commissary commissary 36.51505 -105.05843 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Ute Gulch Commissary (2) front of commissary 36.51651 -105.05959 7918 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Ute Meadows Camp ? 36.61884 -105.18214 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Ute Springs Camp ? 36.50358 -105.05325 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Ute Springs Camp (2) by the well 36.50562 -105.0532 7691 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Vaca Camp ? 36.51417 -105.00992 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Visto Grande Camp ? 36.55337 -105.06881 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Websters Lake Camp ? 36.47924 -105.02372 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Websters Park Camp ? 36.49877 -105.07796 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Whitman Vega gate to fence 36.7753 -105.105 ? Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Whitman Vega Windmill windmill 36.7934 -105.1061 8035 Crew 007, Wichita, KS 2001
Wild Horse Camp ? 36.43829 -105.17543 ? RogerKnapp.com ?
Wild Horse Camp (2) meadow in middle of camp 36.440533 -105.1758667 ? Troop 445, Arlington, TX 2002
Wilson Mesa ? 36.65102 -105.11475 ? Capitol Area Council ?

The "Wilson Mesa" waypoint is incorrect on the Capitol Area Council site.  The latitude is off by 0.1 degree.

Wilson Mesa (2) by the pond 36.63398 -105.11525 8617 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Wilson Mesa Trail from Bent just past Bent Camp 36.6395 -105.06908 7374 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Wilson Mesa Trail from Rich Cabins Stern Ranch shortcut 36.65123 -105.09298 7546 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Window Rock ? 36.48833 -105.05556 ? Capitol Area Council ?
Window Rock (2) ? 36.4922 -105.05575 8138 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Window Rock (3) by the big cut 36.48712 -105.05712 8308 Troop 764, Dunwoody, GA 2004
Zastrow Camp ? 36.37500 -104.98694 ? Capitol Area Council ?

"Zastrow Camp" maps out at the approximate location of where the Zastrow Turnaround should be.

Zastrow Turnaround turnaround 36.37778 -104.99521 ? RogerKnapp.com ?

"Zastrow Turnaround" maps out at the approximate location of where Zastrow Camp should be.

 

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